M1 Pro, M1 Max Macbooks

[Steve]

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Has anyone considered buying an M1 Pro, M1 Max Macbook?

Has anyone actually bought an M1 Pro, M1 Max Macbook?

If so, what is it like?

[Robby]

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Yes, very strongly considering a new Macbook, but might wait for an M2 Macbook Air.

[Steve]

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I’m considering an M1 Macbook Air, I just can’t sell my existing laptop yet.

[Robby]

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Can you get a trade-in for your existing laptop?

[Steve]

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I don’t think so, it is a Windows laptop.

[Robby]

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Apple accepts Windows PCs for trade-in, gift cards…

[Steve]

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In that article is a link to Apple’s trade-in policy: https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in

I used their wizard, and received a message:

Based on what you’ve told us, your computer is ready to recycle.
While it doesn’t qualify for a gift card, just send it to us and we’ll recycle it for free.

🙁

[Robby]

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Wow, I see what you mean, that’s really weird. I hope you sell it another way.

[Steve]

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I’m trying to sell it on eBay & Gumtree.

[Robby]

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Looks like a nice laptop. Why do you want to get rid of it?

[Steve]

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It is a nice laptop, and I like it, I just think I’m ready for a change to a modern MacBook. I have a 2015 MacBook Air, which I like too.

[Robby]

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Why not stick with the 2015 Macbook?

It can probably handle macOS Monterey.

[Steve]

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I want to learn to build mobile apps for Android and iOS, and a fast processor radically decreases the time it takes to build the apps, both for testing & for production.

The Macbook Air is pretty slow, which is frustrating.

As I said, I’ll probably wait for the M2 Macbook Air, or for the price of the M1 Macbook Air to decrease when the M2 version comes out.

[Robby]

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Why not use your Windows laptop for mobile applications? That is a more modern laptop…

[Steve]

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Hi Robby, because only macOS can build & test iOS apps.

[Robby]

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Ahhhh, okay

[Steve]

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I went into the local Apple store but wasn’t blown away by the 14″ & !6″ Macbook Pros. The caveat is that I wasn’t able to test the CPU/CPU in any meaningful way as there was no access to sudo.

I think I will still sell my Lenovo laptop, but put the money toward my business.

[Steve]

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I heard a rumour with next year’s M2, Apple will be releasing an “M2 MacBook” which will sit between the MacBook Air & MacBook Pro.

[Robby]

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That sounds like something I would buy. Thanks!

[Steve]

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There’s a YT vid on “Apple M2 Chip Performance” here.

[Steve]

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And a preview of what the M2 MacBook Pro could be like.

[Robby]

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Wow

[Robby]

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I’ve heard the new Intel 12th generation CPUs are giving Apple M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max a run for their money. Here’s an interesting article discussing this.

Cheers.

[Steve]

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Interesting, nice article, thanks, Robby.

[Robby]

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Cheers. The 12th gen laptop CPUs are set to be released 4 January 2022.

[Steve]

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Ah okay. I see they don’t have great graphics. I wonder what new graphics options will come with the new laptops, and how they compare to Apple’s monster GPUs.

[Robby]

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I am sure the higher-end Windows laptops will come with something like a dedicated 6GB/8GB GPU, but we should find out how they compare in two days time!

[Steve]

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Do you know what Lenovo Australia offered for trading in my X1 Nano 1TB SSD laptop worth $3600 new?

$150.

[Robby]

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Oh shit, that’s ridiculous. That’s less than 5% of the original value. What year is it?

[Steve]

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It’s a 2020 model, 11th-gen CPU. The 12th-gen isn’t out, yet, as we know.

So it’s lost 95% of its value in 18 months.

Thanks, Lenovo.

[Steve]

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Intel claims it’s 12th gen mobile CPUs are faster than the Apple M1 Pro.

Based on an 18 month Lenovo laptop returning 5% of its value I might be more tempted to opt for an Apple MacBook, which I believe hold their value more.

• This reply was modified 1 year ago by Steve.

[Robby]

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Yes, agreed.

Bear in mind that 5% value was only the trade-in value, not the price you could get for someone wanting to buy it 2nd hand off you.

[Steve]

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Ah, good point, Robby.

Still struggling to sell it 2nd hand @ 50% value though.

[Robby]

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Fingers crossed for you, Steve

[Steve]

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Choices got more complicated for me with the release of the Mac Studio, haha. Looks great.

[Robby]

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Haha, it looked great. The Mac Pro should be insane. I wonder what Intel or AMD will release to keep pace?

[Steve]

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I’m realizing I’m getting caught up in the hype cycle.

I enjoy watching from the sidelines, but I will have to remember I don’t need to upgrade to the latest new shiny thing.

[Blossum]

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Computer technology doesn’t seem to be like classic cars, or classic shoes or handbags, they really age fast.

Stay happy with your older more mature computer, Steve…

[Steve]

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Wise words, Blossum

[Robby]

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I tend to agree with you, so I shouldn’t talk about Apple M3 CPUs, should I Steve? They’re out at the end of 2023.

In the video above, they say M2 chips won’t be a big increase in performance over M1 chips (maybe 10%).

So why not get a M1 Pro Macbook, Steve?

[Steve]

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Oh, Jesus, so many choices Robby.

I think I will take Blossum’s wisdom.

I truly don’t need the latest and greatest.

The Apple fanboys put so much spin and hype on their rumours, it’s seductive.

I am sure Apple helps feed these rumours.

[Robby]

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I am sure Apple feed the rumours too.

Why were you interested in the M1 Pro, M1 Max Macbooks in the first place, Steve?

[Steve]

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Because they look so nice, Robby, they’re powerful & sexy.

Editor’s note: Steve is susceptible to great advertising.

[Robby]

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Haha.

Resist, Steve…

[Steve]

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I’m trying!

[Steve]

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Got close to buying an iPad today. Added it to my Apple.com bag. Closed the Apple store tab, and resumed my work.

8 hours later I am glad I have not bought the iPad, I don’t need it.

[Steve]

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Apple might be delaying the M2 chip.

TLDR: the M2 coming in the Apple WWDC might be a ‘modified M1’ with the same A15 architecture, rather than the new A16 architecture, and so the performance upgrade might not be as much as hoped for.

• This reply was modified 8 months ago by Steve.

[Blossum]

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Yawn…

Excuse me, sorry. Really? Sounds fascinating!

[Steve]

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It was rather technical

[Robby]

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And by technical, you mean YI?

YI = yawn-inducing

[Steve]

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Treachery, Robby!

How dare you?

[Blossum]

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Haha, join the pirate party, Robby

[Steve]

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And here it is: the M2 Macbook Air.

It looks better than the 13″ M2 Macbook Pro, which has no pro ports and offers cooling fans as its pro feature.

I will wait until the 14″ M2 MacBook Pro.

[Robby]

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The M2 MacBook Air looks a treat, Steve.

Can’t work out why they reduced the port selection on the 13″ MacBook Pro though. Weird.

[Steve]

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I agree, Robby.

YouTubers are reporting Apple may release a 15″ M2 MacBook Air later this year.

[Robby]

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Wow. It’s now on my radar!

[Robby]

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13″ M2 MacBook Pro gets a poor review with 7 problems

[Steve]

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Wow, excellent video Robby.

I’ve been enjoying my Windows laptop more these past few days. Torn between Apple & Windows.

[Steve]

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This video shows the M1 MacBook Air is better than the 13″ M2 MacBook Pro.

[Steve]

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I am realising more and more it is so easy to get caught up in the hype and drool over the new design and performance of these new MacBooks, but as a front-end website developer, I don’t need a powerful laptop or even the latest laptop.

Increasingly happy to wait for my current 2 year old laptop to stop performing well.

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